Chapter Eight

Placement

The materials in this chapter are closely related to the materials in Chapters Twelve and Thirteen. These three chapters can be taught together, or sections of any of the chapters can serve as supplements to any of the others. The basic distinction is that the materials in Chapter Eight are specifically geared toward researching with conversational media, whereas the materials in Chapters Twelve and Thirteen focus on the collaborative aspects of lists, newsgroups and forums. Still, be aware that there is significant overlap.

Authors' Suggestions

Of particular interest in this chapter is the final section entitled "Composing the Post." If your class is going to be working on lists, newsgroups, and forums, this information will be very helpful for students to read.

Remember to build time into your syllabus when you're having students post to on-line forums. If you expect meaningful conversation to develop around your students' work, you'll need to make sure that there is at least a week between the time they post and the time they need to start using the information they receive. Ideally there will be even more time so that they can continue to revise their posts as they receive different responses, perhaps moving to different forums or rethinking their approach.

Another tip that you can give your students is to use the searchable archives of sites like DejaNews (http://www.dejanews.com) as a way of finding FAQ-type information from newsgroups. Instead of jumping on and immediately posting a query, try doing a keyword search about the subject at DejaNews. It's surprising how many times they'll find the material they're looking for without having to spend the time it takes to write a post and wait for responses. And this way they'll be sure to avoid the possibility of annoying the members of a group by asking a question that's recently been answered. Similarly, by looking at the responses that come up, they may be able to discover additional relevant newsgroups or further refine their question, making it more specific or taking a different approach than the earlier posts.

Authors' Warning

One of the potential problems that students will run into when posting to collaborative forums has to do with the kinds of responses they will receive. Of course, much of this depends on the level of traffic and primary audience of the particular forum where they are sending their posts. Hopefully, these will be factors that your students will consider themselves as they compose their messages. But there are times (not infrequently) when a student will do everything correctly to the best of his or her knowledge (following the strategies for composing an effective post laid out in the chapter) and still receive either flames or no response at all.

Although there isn't much that can be done in these situations, here are a few suggestions about how to handle this problem.

  • First, prepare your students for the possibility of poor responses before they post. Although many student queries will generate helpful comments, it wouldn't be uncommon for one or two students to be flamed or ignored.
  • If the student receives only flames, it can be helpful to talk through the initial post with the student, looking for reasons why it might have prompted such a negative response. Examine the post rhetorically and suggest places where the student might have phrased things differently or followed a different line of questioning. If you think the flames are unfair, offer the student some feedback of your own. If there's time, you might suggest ways of responding or reposting to a different forum.
  • If the student receives little or no feedback, the first step, again, is to pore over the piece with the student and look for possible reasons why the post didn't elicit response. Ideally, there will be time for the student to rewrite the post from a different perspective or asking slightly different questions. Additionally, consider resubmitting the post to new forums; perhaps a different audience will respond more favorably.
  • Finally, you should stress the similarity between composing an effective post and developing an aspect of a project. If students are engaging the complexities of a topic as they compose, they should consider their posts to be a success.
  • In general, you should be aware that as an instructor you may need to fill in a few of the gaps that aren't answered by the Internet audience. You can use these moments as opportunities to talk further about ways of exploring an issue and rhetorical persuasiveness with your students. Similarly, these situations may be chances to get the rest of your class involved by providing feedback to the students who weren't able to generate useful responses. It's important to remember, and to remind your students, that not all topics are well suited for the Internet. Similarly, because of the transient nature of the Net, it may be that a post which received no comments one week will spark a long thread the next. Sometimes, though, even great posts will go unanswered or get flamed.

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